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Re: introduce nscd --foreground, for systemd use

On Jan 23, 2012, Roland McGrath <> wrote:

> This seems generally sound to me.  But I'd like to know if there is
> any existing precedent for an option letter and/or long option name
> for doing this in another GNU utility.

I'm afraid I couldn't find examples of programs that offered this level
of flexibility, so I saught guidance in the GNU coding standards.

    For server programs, run in the foreground; in other words, donât do
    anything special to run the server in the background.

    â-dâ in make and m4; â-tâ in Bison.

There doesn't seem to be a standard short option for â--foregroundâ;
indeed, some non-GNU programs use -d to daemonize, whereas others use it
to enter debugging mode.  I couldn't tell (by just looking at remote
docs) whether they changed behavior WRT syslog when they offered both
options.  It's a bit of a mess already :-(

> Perhaps cleaner to have two bools.

I've considered adding --[no-]syslog, but we don't really have 4
different possibilities in the choice space.  It doesn't make sense to
send output to std* if you daemonize: it's really 3-state.

Or (4-, 5- or) 6-state, if we were to add âparanoid modeâ as a
(non-)orthogonal dimension in the choice space.

>> +	fprintf (stderr, _("further output sent to syslog\n"));

> What's the point of this message?

It's just so that someone who runs the program in --foreground isn't
surprised by the absence of output when the program runs in foreground,
behavior that is new and unlike that of -d.

> It's not normal for daemon startup to print anything to stderr in my
> experience.

This won't be printed in daemon mode, only in --foreground mode.

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