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Re: guile: going the way of DEATH



>   Many interesting comments have been made on this subject. I hope Jim
>   Blandy and others are not discouraged by them.

Nope.  :)

>   I agree that some parts are a mess. The documentation needs updated
>   as soon as possible. Without good docs, you have to really want to
>   use Guile to work with it. This will scare off the casual programmer
>   that is looking for an extension language.

Yep.

>       1. Minimal startup time. Yes, I know you can reduce Guile's
>          startup time by various hacks. It *needs* to be fast right
>          out the box.

Yep.

>       2. Minimal core. Everything other than basic functionality
>          needs to be a module.

Yep.

>       3. Drop dead simple networking (a module). Guile more or less
>          does this already, except that it needs to be a module and
>          recv! needs supplemented in some way.

Yep.

>       4. Drop dead simple GUI (a module). Like STk. I know GUI isn't
>          important to everyone. Add it to the above features and you
>          have a language that can compete in the Real World with PERL
>          and TCL.

Yep.

>	So when are you gonna *DO* something about it, Blandy?

After 1.3.  We'll begin to address all these things, or I'll find
another maintainer.  At the moment, I have to pack.