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The loss of ftp access will be a problem for me personally. My access is through a firewall; only those services that have proxies work. CVS is not supported and is not likely to be. The only things that work are http, ftp and telnet. If the main site is not going to have tar-balls, could somebody volunteer to wrap them up from time to time. Even once a month would be better than waiting for the next release. Shame. :-( Julian Satchell <satchell@dera.gov.uk>