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Re: [docbook-apps] Simpler XHTML output
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:29 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote:
> Dave Pawson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 10:40 -0700, Bob Stayton wrote:
>
> >> The div elements serve a
> >>purpose in creating a structure in the XHTML that CSS can work with. Since
> >>CSS styles can cascade down through the structure, you can set styles at the
> >>appropriate level and override them as needed in lower levels. I agree that
> >>we should eliminate div elements that don't serve that purpose, but I can't
> >>see removing them all.
> >
> > What use cases do you see then Bob?
>
> See my last email for an instance that just happened to me recently.
The current HTML output provides the full 'complexity' and css hooks
needed.
>
> > Mine is very plain HTML, if viewed in a browser.
> > Not exiting visually, I agree.
>
> Having extra nested divs doesn't make your output any less plain.
I think it does. Extra markup for one. That meets my definition of
complex Paul?
> On
> the other hand, they allow me to create fancier pages with extra
> non-content images in weird places, which I do need for my current
> project. Removing most of the style-less divs wouldn't affect your code
> either way, but would make mine much harder to deal with. :-)
In which case Rene's idea of a 'simple xhtml' output wouldn't be
suitable for such a use case.
>
> (Note: That's not intended as a slam against you in any way, in case it
> came off as such. I'm just pointing out that simple-page folk don't
> lose functionality with the divs there while complex-page folk do lose
> functionality without them.)
Use the current html output to keep that level of functionality.
I think both Rene and I are aiming towards a far simpler output.
Simpler being defined as less markup.
regards DaveP
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