RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin

[Larry Hall <cygwin-lh at cygwin dot com>]

At 02:26 PM 12/14/2003, Hannu E K Nevalainen you wrote:
>> From: Larry Hall
>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:23 PM
>
>> At 05:24 PM 12/13/2003, Hannu E K Nevalainen you wrote:
>> >> From: Larry Hall
>> >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:21 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >PLEASE NOTE:
>> >** on a mailing list; please keep replies on that particular list **
>
>> I'm a little confused by the intent of your "note" above.  If this is
>> directed at me, I replied to your message the way I always reply, with
>> "reply all".  That goes to the list.  It also goes to you directly, since
>> you don't set your reply-to header.  If you prefer to get just one copy
>> of any reply (i.e. the one that goes to the list), set your reply-to
>> header to point to the list.  My email client will obey your stated
>> preference automatically.  Of course, if you were directing this comment
>> at someone else, then you can ignore the above.
>
> The problem is that I do not have the option to set the reply-to header.
>I'm lost in the wasteland of MS software; i.e. I'm running "Outlook 2000"
>and have no other viable options. Asking support personell on the matter
>gives nothing (they know less than I do), scouring the helpfiles and
>documents that I have available gives nothing.
>The above request is all I can do.
>
> Time permitting I hope to set up a more useful environment (cygwin or
>linux, local fetchmail). Though: Time has become a scarce resource now :-P.


I guess I could also suffer from this as I currently work at a client that
seems pretty intent on enforcing the use of Outlook (not sure why but 
whatever).  Since clients come and go, I wouldn't want to use'em for my
access to this list anyway so I simply keep my home machine up all the 
time and ssh/VNC to it.  From this, I can use my work and/or personal email
accounts and the tools that work for me best.  Perhaps that's another option
for you.  Otherwise, you're stuck at the mercy of Outlook and the charity
of those on this list that might remember what your preferences are.  I've
done so this time.  Can't say that I'll remember to do so next time. :-(


>> >> I think both Chris, Rob, and others have pointed out gap in your setup
>> >> knowledge here.  'Nuff said.
>> >
>> > Thanks for not pushing it, this seems to be yet another time when I'm
>> >wrong - at least to some extent.
>>
>> Well, no one knows everything. :-)
>
> I've also noted: The more you learn, the more you know that you don't know.
>(Is that correct/good English? Feels bad to me in some way).


It's fine by today's standards. ;-)


>> > Might I ask where this functionality of setup is documented?
>> >Not /u/s/d/cygwin-doc-1.3/html/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html as it seems.
>> >
>> >And please:
>> > source is *not* documentation, independently of how readable it is.
>>
>> Sorry, no.  Not every piece of functionality is documented for Cygwin and
>> its setup program.  It has been discussed many times on the cygwin-apps
>> list.  Here's one message that lists out at least some command
>> line options:
>>
>> <http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-03/msg00526.html>
>>
>> So the email archives is the only place I know of that has this
>> information at this point,
>
> All right, that explains my ignorance. I read this list only, nothing else
>WRT cygwin (except docs).


Yeah, cygwin-apps is the main discussion list for setup.  If you're 
interested in that topic, subscribe there.  


>> unless someone wants to look at the source (which you stated you did not).
>
> I have no problem reading source, but using it as *user* documentation
>is "a long shot" IMO.


Oh of course that's true!


> I consider myself a very knowledgable computer user and programmer (under
>the right conditions), but a newbie user in the cygwin/POSIX world.
>
>> If you're interested,
>> I'm sure Rob, Max, and  others actively involved in the
>> development of setup would consider any patch you
>> might want to generate that moves this documentation into a more
>> obvious/official spot.
>
> =-) well, I should have expected that...
>That's a long version of "PTC" ;-D


Quite true.  "A rose by any other name..." ;-)



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