Re: XTrap in X11R7 - your Nov 2008 posting

[Rob 613 <rob613 at gmail dot com>]

Thank you for replying.

My information remains accurate.

I am neither refering to any new brokenness in Record - as one of the
original developers of it I am refering to its design flaws, as well
as the cumbersome nature of needing to use two extensions.

This is absolutely not about porting code to use XTest, since that
absolutely covers none of the necessary functionality.

I would absolutely be happy to speak with the new X.Org folks about
it.  Can you think of a particular person to speak with?

I do regret that I only happened upon your note while reinstalling
cygwin the other day.

I'll read your links and write more later.

--Chaim

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
<yselkowitz@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PPIOSPE ! ?Reply-To: set accordingly.
>
> On 2010-03-16 09:22, Rob 613 wrote:
>>
>> I would like to point out that the stated reasoning of removing XTrap is
>> false.
>
> For the record, in the X11R7.4 announcement I listed XTrap among the
> deprecations, stating the reason as:
>
>> Replaced upstream by Record/XTest, it was recently removed. ?Nothing in
>> the distro was using it.
>
> And here's why:
>
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-June/036131.html
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=cbc20d92de92aad5ca240310a9156ccf97c24a01
>
> IOW in June 2008 (months before the X11R7.4 release) the XTrap extension was
> completely removed from the server because "XTrap
> offers no functionality over RECORD/XTest". ?I think that's pretty
> unambiguous.
>
>> I am the original inventor of XTrap, and also a contributor to Record,
>> and previously worked with the X Consortium.
>>
>> Record doesn't work - there is functionality not found in the
>> combination of XTest + Record.
>
> The Record extension has suffered some breakage as of late, but that should
> be fixed with the upcoming 1.7.6 and 1.8rc releases.
>
>> There may not be that much freely available software that uses XTrap,
>> but I don't think it should be removed.
>
> This occurred almost *two years* ago. ?It's a bit late now, and as this was
> an *upstream* decision (before I became a regular contributor), you'll need
> to take it up with the X.Org devs. ?Although given the recent trend of
> removing obsolete and unmaintained extensions, I think your time would be
> better served porting your code to XTest.
>
>
> Yaakov
> Cygwin/X
>

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