Re: No Taskbar Icon (Was: Re: -Rootless AND -NoDecoration)

[Harold L Hunt II <huntharo at msu dot edu>]

Heh heh...

Harold

Jean-Claude Gervais wrote:

> Here's a heretic opinion:
>
> I want a taskbar icon for EACH X application!
>
> Nyah!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On
> Behalf Of Randall R Schulz
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:45 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: No Taskbar Icon (Was: Re: -Rootless AND -NoDecoration)
>
> Harold,
>
> At 10:24 2002-10-25, you wrote:
>  
> > Randall,
> >
> > No, there is no such combination of flags.
> >
> > How do you intend to set the focus to Cygwin/XFree86 without a taskbar
> > entry?  I mean, you could minimize it and not be able to get it back.
> >    
> Without a taskbar icon, I don't know how XWin could get minimized. Would
> "ALT-SPACE N" while the X server "layer" (as I think of it in "-rootless"
> mode) was active do it?
>
> Also, the Windows SETI@home GUI shows that a window with no taskbar icon
> can still show up in the ALT-TAB list of icons.
>
>
>  
> > In the future, when we write the Windows-based window manager, I intend to
> > make Cygwin/XFree86 use a system tray icon rather than a taskbar icon, but
> > only when using the Windows-based window manager.
> >    
> That would be nice, but I'd still like to avoid the taskbar icon even when
> I'm using an X-based window manager.
>
>
>  
> > Now, from the perspective of building a correct application, can't you see
> > that it would be incredibly non-standard of us to allow Cygwin/XFree86 to
> > not have a taskbar icon?  No other Windows application that needs to be
> > minimized/restored/closed has that behavior. Typically, only applications
> > that are either closed or open are in the system tray.  Can you see my
> > point?  I suppose you could code such a feature if you wanted that did not
> > change the default behavior, but I'm not sure how much use it would be to
> > others...
> >    
> Not at all. There are applications that show windows without taskbar icons
> when the application writer deemed it appropriate. Since the Windows API
> makes it possible, it was clearly seen as a viable option that might be
> desirable in some contexts.
>
>
> Perhaps others could weigh in on whether they'd like to have the option to
> avoid a taskbar icon?
>
>
>  
> > Harold
> >    
>
> Randall Schulz
> Mountain View, CA USA
>
>
>  
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >
> >    
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Please forgive my creative capitalization in the Subject line.
> > >
> > > I had hoped that using "-nodecoration" with "-rootless" would prevent the
> > > XWin server getting a taskbar icon, but alas, no.
> > >
> > > Is there a combination of options or a configuration file or environment
> > > setting that will suppress the taskbar icon in rootless mode?
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, yeah... Rootless Rocks!
> > >
> > >
> > > Randall Schulz
> > > Mountain View, CA USA
> > >      
>