Re: fhandler_console.c refresh?

[Igor Peshansky <pechtcha at cs dot nyu dot edu>]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Joseph Allen wrote:

> cygwin-developers-owner@XXXXXX.XXX wrote on 01/12/2007 03:01:38 PM:

Ahem.  And yes, I know there is no way in Notes to control this -- so
you'll have to do this manually.

> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:46:30PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > >On Jan 12 14:35, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:23:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > >> >On Jan 12 13:27, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > >> >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 11:29:40AM -0500, Joseph Allen wrote:
> > >> >> >I'm thinking of modifying fhandler_console.c, to make the mouse
> > >> >> >support, clipboard support and perhaps some other things a lot
> > >> >> >more like xterm.  Possibly this is optional for backwards
> > >> >> >compatibility: maybe there's a CYGWIN environment variable
> > >> >> >option for it.  The idea is to make UNIX programs
> > >> >> >(particularly, my text editor JOE, but many other programs such
> > >> >> >as 'mc') work fully in CMD console windows.  Basically, I'd
> > >> >> >much prefer to do this than make a win32 port of JOE.  What do
> > >> >> >think?  I'm sure that this has been a topic of discussion in
> > >> >> >the past, so I'm wondering how receptive people are to changes
> > >> >> >to the terminal emulator's behavior.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm very willing to explore the idea of making the handling of
> > >> >> the console more like xterm.  If we can't do it in a backwards
> > >> >> comtemptible fashion maybe we could just detect when TERM=xterm
> > >> >> and "do the right thing".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Two things to consider before you start:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 1) Please just send regular text email to this mailing list.
> > >> >> This one slipped by but you won't be able to send any more html
> > >> >> mail here.
>
> Sorry about that: my employer forces me to use Lotus Notes.  I think I
> turned off HTML, but you never know with Notes.  If this message doesn't
> work, I'll switch to my ISP account.

Doesn't Notes ask every time you send a message to a non-Notes address
whether you want plain-text format?

> > >> >> 2) Please consider getting the ball rolling on submitting an
> > >> >> assignment from http://cygwin.com/assign.txt to Red Hat so that
> > >> >> there will be no delays in reviewing or adopting your patch.
>
> I submitted the disclaimer request to my local general manager, who
> immediately said isn't "RedHat a competitor?"  So we'll see what
> happens :-)

Well, I can tell you it *is* possible.  Contact me off-list, and I'll let
you know how (or, better yet, look me up in Bluepages and send email to my
Notes address).

> > >> >> Otherwise, I think this is a good idea and encourage you to
> > >> >> submit patches to make this so.
> > >> >
> > >> >This sounds all good and right.  That reminds me that I'm always
> > >> >missing that the console window doesn't handle changing the window
> > >> >size gracefully. Somehow my applications never get a SIGWINCH.
> > >> >Is that also something you'd like to add?  *hint, hint* ;)
> > >>
> > >> There is SIGWINCH handling in the console already.  If it isn't
> > >> working, that's a bug.  However, IIRC, it isn't possible to emulate
> > >> this 100% perfectly.
> > >
> > >Too bad.  I'm missing this usually when running vim or gdb in a
> > >console window.
>
> I've seen it, it's one of the things I want to fix.  The Windows console
> api is screwy in this area, it normally doesn't give events for windows
> resize- only buffer resize.  I'm not sure how Cygwin is dealing with
> this yet.  I'm guessing it polls, but I haven't looked into it enough
> yet.
>
> > How about making it work more like the linux console with its mouse
> > support?
>
> I want it to work like an xterm: so unless the application enables mouse
> support, the simple left button to select, middle button to paste thing
> should work as in xterm- but of course everything should be optional.
> I'm not yet sure how this should interact with windows clipboard.

I would imagine you can't use anything *but* the Windows clipboard, given
that X is not likely to be running when someone uses the console window...
	Igor
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